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I've already told you.
[He doesn't feel things like other people. He was born wrong, born missing something.]

A world that really has things like that doesn't have a place for people without them, right?
[He can just hear that voice at the back of his head again, It's not right for people like that to exist!]

[ Unwanted children. He didn't feel anything, when his mom died. Unneeded, unwanted.

There's so much Alex wishes he didn't know. It'd be a simple thing, if he didn't, to just ignore Ogata. To avoid him and never speak to him again. That's what a normal, sane person would do, right?

But, he doesn't have the luxury of ignorance. He never does, it seems. ]

Who ever told you something like that?

... My half-brother, for one. I don’t know if he understood what he was saying to me but he was just repeating back what he’s been taught, anyway.
[Yuusaku didn’t think for himself after all. He just did whatever father told him to do.

Ogata’s tired, really. Exhausted. He doesn’t know how he managed to avoid just having a complete mental breakdown, feels like he’s suffering the same fatigue he felt after wonderland. He just wants all of this to be over with. Maybe death wouldn’t be a bad way to escape all this. Except it won’t stick here, and Alex would just be mad, which would only serve as further punishment. ]

You can be personally optimistic all you want but you can’t do anything about how anyone else thinks. How society thinks.

[ Alex opened himself a mighty huge can of worms, didn't he? Tends to be how it goes. He's faced down Death before, and- ...well. He survived for awhile. A lot longer than he thought he would.

So... This can't be more difficult than that. Right? ]

Maybe I can't. Maybe...the rest'a the world's just like that. But...there's a lot of worlds out there. Every one of them, every person... They can't all think like that.

...Hell, if I can sit here, 'nd talk with you... You know.

[Alex, you fool. Dealing with the living is usually so much more complicated and difficult than dealing with Death. You should know this by now.

It's a bit odd, he thinks, hearing Alex slightly concede that he could be right, maybe. At least partly so. Maybe that's why he tenatively probes at the matter.]

Yes. Your willingness to hold conversations with me is frankly fairly inexplicable. Almost as bad as Sayori, but she claims I'm her friend so I suppose it makes some sense.
[This is still deeply strange to him and probably should be to Alex as well??? In any case.]

I can't fathom what your reasoning is, though.

[ Complicated, but at least it's something he can comprehend. Perhaps that's the big sticking point between the two of them. ]

I'm not gonna start speakin' for her. If she says you're her friend, then she sees you that way, though. She ain't the kind of person to jerk someone around. Sayori... She can make her own decisions. [ See!!! She was right!! ] If I could guess, it's she saw something in you that made her want to talk to you more.

[ And... ] For me, I...

[ A pause. ]

I guess I see someone worth talking to, too.

[All the stuff about Sayori seems fine. Unsurprising because yeah it's exactly as she said. He does wonder, idly, what exactly it might be that made her want to talk to him more. If that's even the case. He had just assumed she was the type to be friendly to anyone as long as they didn't give her reason not to be.

But then there's the pause. And the last thing Alex says. It feels, vaguely, like he's just been hit in the head, so viciously unexpected the statement is. It's not as extreme as what Sayori said, of course. But given what he's done to Alex, it feels almost more absurd. It was barely a month ago when Alex was (logically) telling Ogata to stay away from him.]

I don't know how you could possibly see that.
[The tone of his voice low and restrained. Holding back the confusion and something somewhat analogous to panic.]

[ This is what they like to call the point of no return. Alex would've thought he'd already crossed this, but Death can only be the beginning, isn't that so? He hums lightly, noncommittal and soft. ]

First thing you gotta understand is... People don't make sense. No matter how much you try, they aren't...things to figure out. I've tried.

[ He doesn't understand either. But if Ogata keeps reaching out to him, it's for a reason. ]

[You know, he feels like this doesn't really answer his question at all. Granted he didn't really ask a proper question. But. You know. Still!!!!]

I don't need you to tell me that. None of what you people do makes sense to me. But I have to assume that what you're doing makes some sense to you?
[Which; please tell him. Please explain. It still hasn't occured to Ogata that once again he's the one who initiated this conversation.]

I- I'm-

[ That hesitation, it's going to cost him. He knows, or at least he thinks he does, but-

Hell. Why not use the words of someone else? ] ...It's a feeling. Alright? It's just a feeling.

[Ogata is quiet for a lonng time. Thinking. That feels like such a vague answer. Just a feeling? About what? What sort of feeling? Does Alex even know? He pauses, because he’s trying. Attempting to understand. It’s not something he’s used to really attempting, but, well, if all these weird kids are, he might as well try, too.

When he actually really thinks about it, it’s not actually entirely unfamiliar. He always finds some justification after the fact, but he’s acted on a feeling, he supposes. Underlying motives not fully realized. Whims. If that’s what this is, it’s a poor one. But isn’t that what teenagers are supposed to do?]

You’re what? [He pauses again, briefly, before adding, thinking perhaps it might help.] I’m trying to understand.

That.

[ The world's a damn puzzle that can never be solved. No matter how much time he's spent trying, how much time he's spent cheating the system. That extends to people, doesn't it? He couldn't micromanage the world to survive because the world includes people. ]

...Maybe you can't see it. But through all the talk...there's someone who wants to get it. That's what keeps me talking to you.

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[Well. Seems he was right to make that little addendum. That said, while he meant it, he hadn't really attached any sort of desire to it. A motive. Ridiculous, maybe, but he does plenty of things either just on impulse, or instinct, or simply because he was told to. So the suggestion that he's trying to understand simply because he wants to understand, it surprises him. Is that really right?

He tries to think of another reason. There's no strategic benefit to it. No one is ordering him to. He doesn't, as far as he's aware, get anything out of it. He thinks, briefly, about how impossible such a desire must be. He doesn't have the pieces to be like everyone else. He lacks some crucial component. Surely that rules out understanding as well.

But then, of course, he always knew, really, that he could never have the father he wanted. But that didn't make the desire go away.]

... Maybe so. But wanting something doesn't matter in the long run. I don't want to be like this but that isn't going to change what I am.
[He thinks this is a valid dismissal. Because he's stupid.]

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Yeah, of course, you dumbass, but that's not like it means nothing.

[ Alex says this with a light grumble, but alright, at least he's getting somewhere. ]

Wanting something doesn't mean you just get it, but it means I'm talkin' to someone whose not just jerkin' me around. Sure there's some of that in there, probably a lot, but you're...asking things, actually listening. Not just trying to fuck with everyone.

[ Maybe he's getting a little tripped up, but Alex- he has a point to make. Get it back in order, get your thoughts together- ]

...If you acknowledge it, that's the first step.

[There's a lot of things Ogata could say here. Things make a little more sense now. Alex has been willing to talk to him because he doesn't think he's being messed with... well, that's not wrong. For whatever reason, he's gotten over his initial annoyance at Alex. Taken over instead by confusion. Curiosity. He'd expect someone who'd died to be dulled to it. Alex is the exact opposite.

And he understands things Ogata doesn't. Things he didn't even believe to be real until his hand was forced, here. He doesn't like things he doesn't understand, and since he can't just shoot them away, he has to try to understand. That's all it is.]

... Alright.
[There's a deep wish to ask what Alex thinks the next step is since he sounds like he knows, but. That's too much. He's hit his limit.]

I can figure the rest out without your help.
[He absolutely cannot.]

[ No you can't, Alex doesn't say, because even if it's true it'd probably prompt an undesired reaction, to say the least. Does Ogata even know he's lying? An obvious, desperate attempt to end the conversation? Because what Alex recognizes now is exhaustion. He'll say anything right now to get out of this, won't he?

To give himself a rest.

It's funny, Alex always comes away from these conversations feeling less scared of this man and more sorry for him. What Sayori had said... He wonders if she's the same way. ]

Yeah. Okay.

[ That's that, then. ]

...Guess I'll see ya 'round.

[He's feeling very tired and fairly vulnerable. He likes neither of these feelings and needs to escape!! As evidenced by the snippy comment he makes right before hanging up;]

You won't. You told me to stay away from you.
[As if it's not far too late for that now and sending him many messages really qualifies as staying away from Alex.]

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